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Seed Faith did not work for Oral and Richard Roberts

 

by Susan Puzio

 

Two of the biggest proponents of “seed faith giving” cannot pay their debts. The last that I heard the ministry was over 30 MILLION dollars in debt. BUT!!!!! Richard and Oral want you to believe if you send them an “aimed “seed faith gift (money to pay their debts) you will receive your families saved, physical healing, debts cancelled and a whole array of other Free blessings that God Almighty will give you just for the asking!!!!!!

Ask and it shall be given you! Matthew 7:7

If ye then being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that -ASK -Him! Matthew 7:14

Now, I do not know the Roberts family, but I do know something about God, and He does not charge his children for gifts!!!! Oh, they say,” You cannot buy a blessing” but you can sow a seed, same THING!!!!

Why don’t you try to give your money to somebody who needs it, not to people who live in million dollar homes that they are not willing to sell to pay their bills. They spend money that they do not have and then they expect you to pay for their mistakes. Maybe if people stop falling for these ridiculous fundraising techniques, and start giving from the heart, they will go out of the manipulating fundraising business and start telling people the truth about giving. They could go to work earning an honest living just like the rest of us!!

Want Prosperity-Get a job!!!

Want Prosperity-don’t buy things that you cannot pay for with cash!

No offense Richard and Oral, but you are not preaching the gospel, and God’s people should not support error! I do not know how you sleep at night!!

God bless,

Susan Puzio

PS-I hope that you will change!

This is an update on the Roberts family and Oral Roberts University. Basically it was sold to the highest bidder. A wealthy businessman “gave a donation” of over $60 million dollars to help retire the over 50 million in debt. He gained control of the university, Richard Roberts resigned as President, after almost destroying it, I guess that was a good thing. Now Richard is running a pay for pray ministry, just like the Catholics do. Give money or “seed” and get your wishes granted by God, just like selling indulgences. Yes, Richard will pray for you personally for your seed faith gift. Keep your money and pray for yourself!   ( Oral Roberts has now passed away)

 


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Letter To Mike Murdock

I find absolutely no Biblical basis for your seed faith teachings or your $58.00 Blessing. If you really believed this teaching you would tell the people to sow their seed to whomever they chose and not to you personally. You would not be afraid to follow your own teaching and to tell the people to hear from God for themselves about where to give their money. But this ridiculous teaching has no basis in fact. Money was never associated with seed in the bible. (tune into my blog talk radio program for more on Mike Murdock scams)

You take a few scriptures and twist them to satisfy your own lusts, planes, houses, cars, Rolex watches and whatever your heart desires. You brag about not having crayons. I did not have those crayons and I never missed them.  How do you sleep at night, knowing that you are abusing people and making a mockery of the cross of Christ??

You blaspheme the Holy Spirit by saying He told you things that are not in the bible. It is not the Holy Spirit instructing you, but another spirit. You cannot know God and serve the Lord Jesus Christ in a personal way and continue to propagate such lies and heresies.

You say may your tongue cleave to the roof of your mouth, I wish you no harm, but be careful what you pray for! Do you think that for one minute any unbeliever tuning into your program would want the Jesus you portray! I am embarrassed that television time is wasted by this absolute nonsense! To stand in front of a lost and dying world and brag about your possessions is nothing but PRIDE!

If you ever stopped being a leading fundraiser for so called ministries, most of your invitations would cease. This is a political gospel. You do something for me and I will do something for you. This is not a gospel of love, but a gospel of greed!!  You say “you cannot buy a miracle” but then you proceed to tell people how they can purchase one.

I hope you will take these things to heart. I have written to you before, but have never received an answer. You sent me a lying form letter.Get a money back guarantee from Mike!

 

 


 

 

 

 

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A Testimony from Susan Puzio-website author

I was born again in 1981 in Redstone, Colorado. I attended a small Baptist church in the mountains and then I was introduced to the teachings of Kenneth Hagin, Kenneth Copeland and the other “Word of Faith” teachers at a church in Glenwood Springs. I attended a “word of faith” church after that for over 20 years, many of them. I was a regular attender at faith meetings, of Ken Copeland, Mike Murdock, Rod Parsley, Kenneth Hagin, Oral Roberts, all of them.

I finally woke up one day and realized Kenneth Hagin could not be born again in hell. (if you die and go to hell, you do not get another chance) His testimony cannot be correct according to God’s word. He claims he died and went to hell and at the gates he gets saved. That cannot happen.

I read a great book by D.R. McConnell, A Different Gospel, he talks about the Hagin-Kenyon connection and Kenyon’s ties to new thought or new age theology. But really the word of God got me out of the messed up theology.

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( I do not claim to know any of these people personally, except for Norvel Hayes as I spent under two years in Cleveland Tennessee, working at his ministry on a volunteer basis and Roberts Liardon who I met in 1987, he was a guest on my tv show in Colorado, and I was a member of his ministerial association. I have been licensed and “ordained” (now only ordained by God) by several ministries. ) I do not know them well enough to pick up the phone and have a conversation, but I am acquainted with them

.I found both men to be sincere, but was greatly disappointed in Roberts for the sin of homosexuality. I no longer believe Roberts testimony about visiting heaven. Nobody that ever came face to face with the Saviour, as Roberts states in his testimony could go so far afield as to live and sleep with his youth pastor while pastoring a church and heading up a bible school.

Also, Roberts claims he talked with dead people in heaven but the bible forbids communication with the dead.

Yes, I believe God forgives, but I wish Roberts would tell the truth all the way. What was he thinking??? Yikes!!!!!

Where was he really the whole time of great success in his ministry? He was so full of personality and charisma, and I wonder what all went so wrong! I am currently curious about his association with Earl Paulk’s” ministry”, since the Paulk’s have crossed over into apostasy.

(Why did Roberts Liardon speak at a conference at a new age church in 2005 which supports homosexuality?
The gay-supportive Harvest Glory Charismatic Conference 2005 featured Pentecostal leaders including D. E. Paulk, Bishop David Huskins, Roberts Liardon and Tammy Faye Messner. It was held in southern California at the end of January under the auspices of Glory Tabernacle Christian Center and GTCC “Pastor” Sandra Turnbull. This is NOT a Christian Church, but an apostate organization.)

My website deals with doctrine, current events and what I believe to be relevant news for these end times.

I do not claim to know the hearts of any of the people we write about. I myself was involved in the false teachings, of the “Word of Faith movement what I mean by this is blab it and grab it, seed-sowing, blind obedience to pastors, etc.

I was taught for the most part submit and shut up, but through the grace of God he brought me out. You should always question what does not agree with the word, no matter what so called great one is teaching.

I found that when I read only one translation of the bible, King James version, I became more stable as far as doctrine. I believe if you will wash, with the word of God, you will have a wonderful transformation

.I spent many years ministering in churches in many different parts of the world and yes I believe God gave women a mouth, a brain and a bible and I use all!!

I was a speaker for many women’s Aglow chapters both here and in Europe. I held my own prophetic conferences, held hundred’s of miracle healing crusades, spoke a few times at Happy church in Denver ( Marilyn Hickey’s ministry) for the singles in the 1980′s.

I was in charge of the singles ministry At Norvel Hayes church in Cleveland Tn. I also taught rarely at the bible college.

I taught at other bible schools as a guest in London, England, making over 30 ministry visits there.

I traveled extensively throughout England, meeting many wonderful, sincere people, plus many foreign countries including Austria, Czechoslavakia, Scotland, Wales, South Africa, Swaziland, Germany and Malta, I always paid my own way and never asked for a fee or travel expenses. I received freewill offerings and yes God paid the bills. I was able to preach and teach at over a hundred venues. I love bible teaching!!!

I produced and hosted a television program in Colorado for 2 years. We were aired in Denver and Aspen. I love doing TV. I also was actively trying to purchase a TV station-I know how that works.

I also hosted 2 radio programs, one in Live Oak, Fl and one in Tampa Fl. I was a guest on the 700 club and some local TBN programs in Denver and Miami in the 1980′s. I appeared on CTN, in Clearwater, Fl many times, among many other tv shows. I authored books, and worked and studied very hard to be an accurate bible teacher.

I love my work and I love Jesus with all my heart, but I came to realize that my doctrine did not line up with my bible. I realized I had no healing power. I had no positive confession that could bring me out of situations, but I was totally dependent on God and His word for everything. God took me out of public ministry in the late 1990′s and currently I am unseen, but still heard.

I knew once I started speaking out against “seed-faith” and “tithing” the “word” churches would not want me and so it was. The Word was not welcome. I took secular jobs to earn a living. I would rather do anything, other than to take the gospel and use it for my gain,the truth is everything.

I feel I can speak from experience, I have been there, done that, as they say. I was on my way up to so called fame and fortune, but God did not let me go. He took me down to build me up. No, I too have not arrived. So maybe I can help others to realize the error of their ways and lay down the pride of trying to build a kingdom that does not in any way resemble the Kingdom of our God and blessed Saviour, Jesus Christ.

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I only give you a full explanation of my ministerial resume to let you know that I am not someone just sitting at a computer saying things about the bible and false doctrines, I have personally been involved with the in’s and out’s of public ministry.

I hesitated for a long time about doing so, but I get so many emails from people who think I just got saved, am not saved, don’t know my bible, etc, etc, (still learning). I know what it is to build a ministry, to try to believe God for finances, to travel, to study, to pray and to lay down my life for the gospel. I love the gospel!!

I know God helped me and I love people enough to tell them the truth. The truth hurts sometimes, but it always, always helps.

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Error of seed Faith Giving-an act of love or an act of selfishness?

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THE ERROR OF SEED-FAITH GIVING


by Susan Puzio

 

I began to notice something was happening to the Body of Christ that was having devastating consequences and causing incredible selfishness and its source was the very popular teaching of sowing seed or seed-faith.

Selfishness: caring only or chiefly for self; regarding one’s own interest chiefly or solely, proceeding from love of self, influenced in actions solely by a view to private advantage. [Webster]Sow a seed and meet “your” need violates the commandment Jesus left with us in Matthew 22:37-40, “Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment and the second is like unto it. Thou shalt LOVE thy neighbor as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.”

            Artist: Phil Saint

Comic: Harping on one string

When our motive in giving is selfish, for our own gain, we disregard the fact that the New Testament is based on love. Love gives! Love never fails! Without love we are nothing. “God’s love seeketh not her own.” I Cor. 13. God so loved the world that he gave.

To love our neighbor as our self would be to see a need and to meet that need. [Not sow a seed and meet “our” need.]I cannot find any scripture that associates money with “seed.” “Seed” is the Word of God. “Being born again not of corruptible seed, but incorruptible by the Word of God.” I Peter 1:23Seed is “sperma” Agricultural and Botanical or offspring. [Vines Greek dictionary]If you sow money in the ground you will not get a harvest! You cannot buy God’s blessings! God Almighty is not moved by dollar bills.Some preachers will say, “sow $100 and God will give you a miracle or buy you a husband or a wife. Need a healing, how about $1,000 seed?” The bigger the seed, the bigger the miracle. What nonsense!

 

God doesn’t need money,we do! God does not have money in heaven, that he drops out of the sky. His exchange is faith, believing that when you pray he answers.

“But Peter said unto him, thy money perish with thee because thou hast thought that the Gift of God may be purchased with money. Thou has neither part nor lot in this matter, for thy heart is not right in the sight of God. Repent, therefore, of this thy wickedness and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine may heart be forgiven thee.” Acts 8:20-22The Gift of the working of miracles is a free gift. The Gift of healing is free! I heard one preacher say she sowed a $1,000 seed for her daughter’s healing to prophet so and so – [false prophet]. I don’t care what prophet so and so said, I care what Prophet Jesus said!”Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with incorruptible things, as silver and gold. But with the precious blood of Christ.” I Peter 1:18.
When your child has a need, sometimes you see the need and meet it without them asking. When was the last time your children said to you, Mom and Dad, if I give you $5.00 would you love me, would you feed me, would you bless me? No, and our loving Heavenly Father does not behave that way either.”Or what man is there of you whom if his son ask for bread, will he give him a stone? Or if he ask for a fish will give him a serpent? If ye then being evil know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ASK Him?” Matthew 7:9-11I believe give and it shall be given but I also believe “it is more blessed to give than to receive.” Read Acts 20:35In the Gospel of Luke 11:42, Jesus rebuked the Pharisees when they bragged about their tithing. He didn’t say nice little Pharisees, you gave [or sowed a seed] so I must bless you. Jesus said,
“But woe unto Pharisees! For ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment and the Love of God. These ought ye to have done and not to leave the other undone.” Go on Jesus! (notice tithing was food, not money, as most “FAITH” preachers want you to believe. They do not live by faith, but by 10%!!) I have never seen one scripture that refers to tithing as money.
“Woe unto you scribes and Pharisees hypocrites! For ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.” Matt 23:25

Sow your seed and meet your need? No- not out of necessity, but because you love your neighbor as yourself! I taught another Gospel and I was wrong and I am not saying all the preachers who teach this are wicked, but they are misinformed. I had to repent and if you find yourself in this error, repent. Study to show yourself approved, and go on and be a blessing to the people Jesus died for!

“Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth and one convert him, let him know that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death and shall hide a multitude of sins.” James 5:20

“We are of God; he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the Spirit of Truth and the Spirit of Error.” I John 4:6

This is an addition to my original seed faith article written in 1997. Please do not send me foolish emails about how you gave $58.00 and God made you rich, or how you name your seed and you get what you want.  Don’t tell me it takes money to preach the gospel, I KNOW THAT!!!! (but personal witnessing is free, and there are quite a few things you can do for God that will not cost you anything except your time.

 

Just ask yourself a question, do you like people doing things for you only because they want something?? No, you hate that, so what makes you think God likes that stuff?

 

Giving  really is not about you, we know that we will reap what we sow, but you do not want to reap selfishness do you?? Giving is about others. What we do for others. I usually hear about the widow who gave all to the prophet, blah, blah,  (she never gave it a thought about getting her return) you do not need a prophet in the new testament to tell you to give, you are supposed to know that!!

 
Then I hear don’t touch God’s anointed, but yes, I too am God’s anointed and so are you.18 But as God is true, our word F4 toward you was not yea and nay. 19 For the Son of God, Jesus Christ, who was preached among you by us, even by me and Silvanus and Timotheus, was not yea and nay, but in him was yea. 20 For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us. 21 Now he which stablisheth us with you in Christ, and hath anointed us, is God; 2 Cor.1–
It is the anointing of Jesus. Only in the old testament did we have “special” anointed ones. And please, touch means touch, not SAY!! I never punched any of your favorite Gods, oh I mean teachers. And yes, tithing, I believe in freewill giving, so does God, you are free. If your pastor cannot live by faith, only by 10%, then how can he expect you to. If he cannot set you free to hear from God about what to give then you are in bondage.(click to listen to my radio broadcasts)